[neo15]

Originally Posted by nmc1988

I agree with the point that, in formal writing, we should avoid to use personal pronoun such as: I,we, they... However, this doesn't mean that we never use them, especially when you have to give your own opinion in your essay (because of the essay question).
The essay given above proves that we can use some phrases like "myself...". It didn't affect to the formality of your essay.

How can you give your opinion with the question " do you agree or disagree" ?

some of my proffs dont like students to use pronouns like "I" or "we"
therefore i always ask them bofore writing any papers. however, with the tests like TOEFL and SAT, using "I" or "we" is okay, as far as i know

[Jay]

Originally Posted by 'or''='

It's a formal writing rule. Just 2 of the top results from Google
http://www.atech.org/faculty/bouchar...itingRules.pdf
http://vu.flare.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en...es/rules_e.htm
You're studying science or engineering, right? Your teachers mainly assess your ideas, not your English or your writing style.

The first PDF file I don't know where it comes from and to what context it applies. But when it says "Do not use 'I'", something must be terribly wrong here. How can you write your essay without an "I" if the question is "Describe one of the best experience that you have had with your family" or "Use your own working experience to prove that XYZ is true."??

The second document is another story. It says

4) Avoid personal "I", "you", and "we",
except for the thesis statement. So, instead of: "As I mentioned above...", write" "As was mentioned above..." "

which is another story and has nothing to do with what we are discussing here.

[caihanthoikhongde]

"they actually kiss the air"
what does it mean?
can you write Vietnamese if you answer my question ?

[Wind Raider]

@ Jay, my teacher is from the USA, and he said, in formal writing or academic writing, should not use pronouns like "I", "you",... And although it's your personal idea, the expression should be used objectively. For example, instead of using "As I mentioned above", you should write "As mentioned above".

[Wind Raider]

Originally Posted by caihanthoikhongde

"they actually kiss the air"
what does it mean?
can you write Vietnamese if you answer my question ?

Actually, I don't know how you don't understand the sentence, so how can I write the answer in Vietnamese in the way you can understand?

[Wind Raider]

Originally Posted by nmc1988

I agree with the point that, in formal writing, we should avoid to use personal pronoun such as: I,we, they... However, this doesn't mean that we never use them, especially when you have to give your own opinion in your essay (because of the essay question).
The essay given above proves that we can use some phrases like "myself...". It didn't affect to the formality of your essay.

How can you give your opinion with the question " do you agree or disagree" ?

Avoid using, not avoid to use. You can agree or disagree, but you should write down your expressions objectively.As mentioned above.
@ jay could you tell me how to make spam legally here.

[hip_85]

Hmm.Sound's weird.When you guys read the writing samples (Mat Clark author) , you'll find out that the author always keep using pronouns to express his ideas.
The problem here is that how you guys wrote essays, because pronouns are minor errors, comparing to another mistakes in the essay
And also there are plenty ways to "agree or disagree"

[caihanthoikhongde]

Originally Posted by Wind Raider

Actually, I don't know how you don't understand the sentence, so how can I write the answer in Vietnamese in the way you can understand?

send me a mes
i'm bad at studying Eng but my gf ask me what it mean . i search by google but i still don't know what it mean

[Tuancoltech.ver2]

Originally Posted by Wind Raider

Avoid using, not avoid to use. You can agree or disagree, but you should write down your expressions objectively.As mentioned above.
@ jay could you tell me how to make spam legally here.

Could you pls tell me what is the difference between "avoid using" and "avoid to use"? Thank you very much.

[Wind Raider]

Originally Posted by caihanthoikhongde

send me a mes
i'm bad at studying Eng but my gf ask me what it mean . i search by google but i still don't know what it mean

I see, but I don't have enough posts to send private messages.