Practicing English with vOzers :D - Page 517

nmc1988 · #**5161** 19-09-2011, 08:21

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

Obviously, you have to present your point of view, but not in that way.
If you read some 8.0 or above essay using those expressions, please enlighten me.

I will show you a evidence

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Others, myself included, are of the opinion that

'or''=' · #**5162** 19-09-2011, 10:34

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And what? Is there anything to demonstrate that it would be an official >=8 essay?
May be you should try one of them and tell us the result, not necessarily >=8, >=7 is enough to prove your point.

Jay · #**5163** 19-09-2011, 10:45

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Originally Posted by Wind Raider

Well well well, any personal idea should not be used in any academic essay, not only IELTS.

There's nothing wrong to provide your personal opinions when the question is explicitly asking for it.

IELTS is just an English test anyway. Do not worry too much about the band 8, 9 issues while you can't even be sure to achieve band 7.

Jay · #**5164** 19-09-2011, 10:48

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

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And what? Is there anything to demonstrate that it would be an official >=8 essay?
May be you should try one of them and tell us the result, not necessarily >=8, >=7 is enough to prove your point.

Can you just provide 1 reason why we can't give our own ideas in any academic essay that way?

'or''=' · #**5165** 19-09-2011, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Jay

Can you just provide 1 reason why we can't give our own ideas in any academic essay that way?

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

Obviously, you have to present your point of view, but not in that way.

I don't say that we can't give our own ideas. If they ask for your opinion, you have to express your opinion, but not by using "I", "my", "myself".

Jay · #**5166** 19-09-2011, 11:37

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

I don't say that we can't give our own ideas. If they ask for your opinion, you have to express your opinion, but not by using "I", "my", "myself".

Why? any specific reason?

I used to say "I do believe that..." or "I don't think..." or "In my personal experience..." in my exam papers and it seems to be ok until now, still get A+ as normal.

Tuancoltech.ver2 · #**5167** 19-09-2011, 11:37

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

I don't say that we can't give our own ideas. If they ask for your opinion, you have to express your opinion, but not by using "I", "my", "myself".

So you mean we have to use "Many people believe that..." or likewise when we are asked to express our own opinion?

nmc1988 · #**5168** 19-09-2011, 12:21

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

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And what? Is there anything to demonstrate that it would be an official >=8 essay?
May be you should try one of them and tell us the result, not necessarily >=8, >=7 is enough to prove your point.

I only want to prove that you can give your own ideas in your essay. In addition, using I, myself... is okay

If you ask me about why the essay which I given above could get 9 score in IELTS test, you should email to Sam Mc Carter. He is a native English speaker, and the book's author.

To Jay, I dont care much about the IELTS score, i only want to give some useful phrases which I 've learned from some English books

'or''=' · #**5169** 19-09-2011, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Jay

Why? any specific reason?

I used to say "I do believe that..." or "I don't think..." or "In my personal experience..." in my exam papers and it seems to be ok until now, still get A+ as normal.

It's a formal writing rule. Just 2 of the top results from Google
http://www.atech.org/faculty/bouchar...itingRules.pdf
http://vu.flare.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en...es/rules_e.htm
You're studying science or engineering, right? Your teachers mainly assess your ideas, not your English or your writing style.

nmc1988 · #**5170** 19-09-2011, 13:14

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Originally Posted by 'or''='

It's a formal writing rule. Just 2 of the top results from Google
http://www.atech.org/faculty/bouchar...itingRules.pdf
http://vu.flare.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/en...es/rules_e.htm
You're studying science or engineering, right? Your teachers mainly assess your ideas, not your English or your writing style.

I agree with the point that, in formal writing, we should avoid to use personal pronoun such as: I,we, they... However, this doesn't mean that we never use them, especially when you have to give your own opinion in your essay (because of the essay question).
The essay given above proves that we can use some phrases like "myself...". It didn't affect to the formality of your essay.

How can you give your opinion with the question " do you agree or disagree" ?