[Men4u7]

Originally Posted by iris1102

why do you know that toelf is difficult than ielts?

Your question is wrong, you should say"how do you know that toefl is more difficult than ielts" ? I would say that I've already taken both courses.I took ielts course at first, but I quittted after 1 years.Why? Just for no reasons, may be because I didn't like Australian accent in listening sections.Then I broke into Toefl and realised that toefl cost me lots of effort.If you want to know how hard toel is, just take a mini test here
http://www.testden.com/challenge/free-toefl.asp

[iris1102]

I also studied about Toefl before but I think you should work hard for both. The difficulty of them are the same, compared between each task.

p/s: can u show me the difference between 2 questions pls bcuz i can't figure it out. Thanks

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Men4u7

Where did u hear that?:-DToefl ibt is much more difficult than ielts. U cannot get a result better than 100 without practising more than 3 years.

sounds interesting... I wonder how well can I score in such tests. Luckly all schools here no longer require me to have either TOEFL or IELTS.

What if I can get 100 TOEFL iBT now, without any practicing? will you pay the test fee for me?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Men4u7

Your question is wrong, you should say"how do you know that toefl is more difficult than ielts" ? I would say that I've already taken both courses.I took ielts course at first, but I quittted after 1 years.Why? Just for no reasons, may be because I didn't like Australian accent in listening sections.Then I broke into Toefl and realised that toefl cost me lots of effort.If you want to know how hard toel is, just take a mini test here
http://www.testden.com/challenge/free-toefl.asp

I have just done a quick test without any practicing... it's quite tough though.


Thank you for your link.

The score will surely be higher if I do the test again.

[Men4u7]

@iris, your question lacks the determiner "more" and people say "how do you know "?instead of "why do you know"?."Why" is only used to ask for reasons,while "how" is asked when you want to know the way it happened.
@jay, how long have you studied Enlgish?, less than 3 years? Then you're supperman. Btw, your score is really beautiful(although that's not a complete test). I admire you :x

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Men4u7

@jay, how long have you studied Enlgish?, less than 3 years? Then you're supperman. Btw, your score is really beautiful(although that's not a complete test). I admire you :x

I have studied English since 6th grade until 12 grade, consider it 6 years, but that's common for every VN student, isn't it? Don't tell me you are at 9th grade & obtain that 101 TOEFL iBT...

In case you want to ask, No I have not attended any other English class outside the highschool programme that every of us should have been taking or have already taken.

[Men4u7]

Yeah yeah, I know. I am looking for a fulbright scholarship, and I want to make sure that I dont have many competitors ^^.

[mr_gem]

Originally Posted by Men4u7

Yeah yeah, I know. I am looking for a fulbright scholarship, and I want to make sure that I dont have many compertitors ^^.

Since you're really good at English, I've got this for you

[gtr_271]

Originally Posted by Jay

I have studied English since 6th grade until 12 grade, consider it 6 years, but that's common for every VN student, isn't it? Don't tell me you are at 9th grade & obtain that 101 TOEFL iBT...

In case you want to ask, No I have not attended any other English class outside the highschool programme that every of us should have been taking or have already taken.

That's strange, I remember that students have to study English in the 3rd grade.
BTW, can anybody give me a list (or a link that provide a list) of formal expression in daily life (like "with all do respect", "back on track", "I beg your pardon" or smt like that)?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by gtr_271

That's strange, I remember that students have to study English in the 3rd grade.
BTW, can anybody give me a list (or a link that provide a list) of formal expression in daily life (like "with all do respect", "back on track", "I beg your pardon" or smt like that)?

Because students nowadays are smarter so they can start learning English earlier.

btw, I don't think "back on track" is a formal expression.